> > Today there are certain PCs i.e Elitebook 2560p, Elitebook 8460p that with > updated FW ""to the last known version"" cannot PXE boot syslinux for the > above mentioned reasons. > > We have already talked about this with Gene an there's an strategy for making > syslinux able to deal with these "weirdo" FWs. > It's just a matter of time for coding it. > > Best, > PatrickLack of time for coding has been an issue for The Syslinux Project for some time. Already-proposed patches (regarding a wide range of issues) have been "waiting" for some feedback / action for some long time. Crazy concept: HP (among others) could actually improve their firmware, reducing the amount of "workarounds" needed to be programed in Syslinux (or in any bootloader in general), and such improvements could perhaps see their way into the "Linux" category of downloads in the HP support website (meaning, HP could test their firmware to be compatible with Syslinux and with non-Windows OSes). If the HP firmware could be made (more) compliant with UEFI specs, or if it could be improved and still be compliant with UEFI specs, wouldn't that be helpful to everyone involved? Well, as I said, crazy concept :D. At this point, I can only hope. Regards, Ady.> _______________________________________________ > Syslinux mailing list > Submissions to Syslinux at zytor.com > Unsubscribe or set options at: > http://www.zytor.com/mailman/listinfo/syslinux >
>>>>website (meaning, HP could test their firmware to be compatible with Syslinux and with non-Windows OSes). If the HP firmware could be made (more) compliant with UEFI specs, or if it could be improved and still be compliant with UEFI specs, wouldn't that be helpful to everyone involved? Regards, Ady. <<<< HP (and the rest) should just check their firmware against the "UEFI standard". Plus FW new versions should fix more than just only critical and security issues. Today is like this: You say you want better firmware? OK, then buy our new line of PC. i.e. Elitebooks 2560p/8460p fail while the newer Elitebooks 2570p/8470p work like a charm :-/ Best Patrick
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Patrick Masotta via Syslinux <syslinux at zytor.com> wrote:>>>>> > website (meaning, HP could test their firmware to be compatible with > Syslinux and with non-Windows OSes). If the HP firmware could be made > (more) compliant with UEFI specs, or if it could be improved and still > be compliant with UEFI specs, wouldn't that be helpful to everyone > involved? > > Regards, > Ady. > <<<< > > HP (and the rest) should just check their firmware against the "UEFI standard". > Plus FW new versions should fix more than just only critical and security issues. > Today is like this: You say you want better firmware? OK, then buy our new line of PC. > i.e. Elitebooks 2560p/8460p fail while the newer Elitebooks 2570p/8470p work > like a charm :-/As stated before, it is my understanding that the Elitebook 2560p/8460p devices _are_compliant_ with UEFI-2.0 which stated to use an SNP directly under PXEBC while UEFI-2.1 stated to use a MNP directly under the PXEBC. Please don't call these devices non-compliant UNLESS you are more specific. Another solution that I'm not sure if anyone has tried with these devices that are UEFI-2.0-compliant and UEFI-2.1-noncompliant is using iPXE to stack ontop of the underlying firmware to run Syslinux. Regarding HP and the lack of "support", I always consider "support" as something you can contact technical support about while "functional" is more community-supported. It's common to find a lack of Linux support. -- -Gene