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Snider, Todd via llvm-dev

2019-Apr-30 15:17 UTC

[llvm-dev] RFC - a proposal to support additional symbol metadata in ELF object files in the ARM compiler

Hello All,

In ARM embedded applications, there are some compilers that support useful
function and variable attributes that help the compiler communicate information
about symbols to downstream object consumers (i.e. linkers).

One such attribute is the "location" attribute. This attribute can be
applied to a global or local static data object or a function to indicate to the
linker that the definition of the data object or function should be placed at a
specific address in memory.

For example, in the following code:

#include <stdio.h>

extern int a;
int a __attribute__((location(0x1000))) = 4;

struct bstruct
{
    int f1;
    int f2;
};

struct bstruct b __attribute__((location(0x1004))) = {10, 12};
double c __attribute__((location(0x1010))) = 1.0;
char d[] __attribute__((location(0x2000)))  = {1, 2, 3, 4};
void foo(double x) __attribute((location(0x4000)));

void foo(double x) { printf("%f\n", x); }

A location attribute has been applied to several  data objects and the function
"foo."  The compiler would then encode information into the compiled
object file that tells the downstream linker about these memory placement
constraints on the data objects and function.

Without extending the ELF object format, how would this work?

I propose to encode metadata information about a symbol in special absolute
symbols, "__sym_attr_metadata.<int>", that the linker can
recognize when scanning the symbol table for an incoming object file. In an ELF
symbol table entry:

typedef struct {
       Elf32_Word     st_name;
       Elf32_Addr     st_value;
       Elf32_Word     st_size;
       unsigned char  st_info;
       unsigned char  st_other;
       Elf32_Half     st_shndx;
} Elf32_Sym;

typedef struct {
       Elf64_Word     st_name;
       unsigned char  st_info;
       unsigned char  st_other;
       Elf64_Half     st_shndx;
       Elf64_Addr     st_value;
       Elf64_Xword    st_size;
} Elf64_Sym;

The st_size and st_value fields could be used to represent attribute information
about a given symbol:


  *   The st_size field can be split into an attribute ID and a symbol index for
the symbol that the attribute applies to
     *   attribute ID: bits 0..7
     *   symbol index: bits 8..31
  *   The st_value field can contain the value associated with the attribute
(i.e. the address argument of a location attribute)

If the compiler is generating assembly code, a new directive similar to the
.eabi_attribute can be used:

        .symbol_attribute <symbol name>, <attribute kind>,
<attribute value>

Where:

  *   symbol name - will unambiguously identify the symbol that the
attribute/value pair applies to
  *   attribute kind - is an unsigned integer between 1 and 255 that specifies
the kind of attribute to be applied to the symbol
     *   I propose a starting base set of 2 attribute IDs: used (1), location
(2)
     *   the compiler will emit the integer constant that identifies the
attribute kind
  *   attribute value - a value that is appropriate for the specified attribute
kind

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?

The anticipated next steps would be to add support for the location attribute
and update the ARM/ELF LLVM back-end to support encoding the used attribute with
the new mechanism.

~ Todd Snider

Code Generation Tools Group
Texas Instruments Incorporated


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Peter Smith via llvm-dev

2019-Apr-30 15:51 UTC

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[llvm-dev] RFC - a proposal to support additional symbol metadata in ELF object files in the ARM compiler

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 16:17, Snider, Todd via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> In ARM embedded applications, there are some compilers that support useful
function and variable attributes that help the compiler communicate information
about symbols to downstream object consumers (i.e. linkers).
>
>
>
> One such attribute is the “location” attribute. This attribute can be
applied to a global or local static data object or a function to indicate to the
linker that the definition of the data object or function should be placed at a
specific address in memory.
>
>
>
> For example, in the following code:
>
>
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
>
>
> extern int a;
>
> int a __attribute__((location(0x1000))) = 4;
>
>
>
> struct bstruct
>
> {
>
>     int f1;
>
>     int f2;
>
> };
>
>
>
> struct bstruct b __attribute__((location(0x1004))) = {10, 12};
>
> double c __attribute__((location(0x1010))) = 1.0;
>
> char d[] __attribute__((location(0x2000)))  = {1, 2, 3, 4};
>
> void foo(double x) __attribute((location(0x4000)));
>
>
>
> void foo(double x) { printf("%f\n", x); }
>
>
>
> A location attribute has been applied to several  data objects and the
function “foo.”  The compiler would then encode information into the compiled
object file that tells the downstream linker about these memory placement
constraints on the data objects and function.
>
>
>
> Without extending the ELF object format, how would this work?
>
>
>
> I propose to encode metadata information about a symbol in special absolute
symbols, “__sym_attr_metadata.<int>”, that the linker can recognize when
scanning the symbol table for an incoming object file. In an ELF symbol table
entry:
>
>
>
> typedef struct {
>
>        Elf32_Word     st_name;
>
>        Elf32_Addr     st_value;
>
>        Elf32_Word     st_size;
>
>        unsigned char  st_info;
>
>        unsigned char  st_other;
>
>        Elf32_Half     st_shndx;
>
> } Elf32_Sym;
>
>
>
> typedef struct {
>
>        Elf64_Word     st_name;
>
>        unsigned char  st_info;
>
>        unsigned char  st_other;
>
>        Elf64_Half     st_shndx;
>
>        Elf64_Addr     st_value;
>
>        Elf64_Xword    st_size;
>
> } Elf64_Sym;
>
>
>
> The st_size and st_value fields could be used to represent attribute
information about a given symbol:
>
>
>
> The st_size field can be split into an attribute ID and a symbol index for
the symbol that the attribute applies to
>
> attribute ID: bits 0..7
> symbol index: bits 8..31
>
> The st_value field can contain the value associated with the attribute
(i.e. the address argument of a location attribute)
>
>
>
> If the compiler is generating assembly code, a new directive similar to the
.eabi_attribute can be used:
>
>
>
>         .symbol_attribute <symbol name>, <attribute kind>,
<attribute value>
>
>
>
> Where:
>
> symbol name - will unambiguously identify the symbol that the
attribute/value pair applies to
> attribute kind - is an unsigned integer between 1 and 255 that specifies
the kind of attribute to be applied to the symbol
>
> I propose a starting base set of 2 attribute IDs: used (1), location (2)
> the compiler will emit the integer constant that identifies the attribute
kind
>
> attribute value - a value that is appropriate for the specified attribute
kind
>
>
>
> Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?
>
Hello Todd,

Thanks for bringing this up, I've got a few comments for you based on
the implementation of a similar attribute in another Embedded Compiler
(http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dui0472m/chr1359124981140.html).
 In that case it was __attribute__((at(address))) but the name is not
that important.

The communication with the linker in that case was via section name
and not symbol, from memory at(<address>) translated to a section name
of .ARM.__at_<address>. For us this had some advantages:
- We could use __attribute__((section(".ARM.__at_<address>"))) 
when
the compiler didn't support the attribute, it also needed no support
in the assembler. This wasn't ideal as it is nice to be able to use
expressions for the address, but it gets you most of the way there.
- In practice you'd likely need a separate section for each variable
to avoid problems at link time. For example if you had two variables
with non-contiguous locations you'd most likely not want these in the
same section so this mapped quite well to something similar to
__attribute__((section(name))).
- We did find some properties of __attribute__((section("name")))
inconvenient, especially that variables would come out as SHT_PROGBITS
when in many cases the user wanted SHT_NOBITS (memory mapped
peripheral), we had our custom attribute fix that.

If you used a section name rather than a symbol then you may not need
any backend changes and it would generalise over all ELF targets.
Linker support is another question entirely though.

Peter
>
>
> The anticipated next steps would be to add support for the location
attribute and update the ARM/ELF LLVM back-end to support encoding the used
attribute with the new mechanism.
>
>
>
> ~ Todd Snider
>
>
>
> Code Generation Tools Group
>
> Texas Instruments Incorporated
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> LLVM Developers mailing list
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev

Snider, Todd via llvm-dev

2019-Apr-30 18:11 UTC

head link

[llvm-dev] [EXTERNAL] Re: RFC - a proposal to support additional symbol metadata in ELF object files in the ARM compiler

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the response.

If we set aside the discussion of the relationship between sections and the
application of the "location" or "at" attribute for a
moment, do you have any objections to the proposed method of encoding metadata
information about symbols (whether they are associated with actual data objects,
functions, or sections) in the ELF object file?

There are other use cases that would benefit from this encoding method besides
the location attribute. The used attribute is an example. There are likely to be
others.

I would agree with you that applying a "location" or "at"
attribute to a data object or function definition must require that the compiler
generate the definition of the applicable data object or function into its own
section, and that section may only contain the definition of that data object or
function.

One of the advantages of attaching the location attribute information to the
symbol is that if the symbol is associated with a common data object, then the
location attribute ends up being applied to the definition that the common
symbol resolves to.

~ Todd

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From: Peter Smith [mailto:peter.smith at linaro.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:51 AM
To: Snider, Todd
Cc: llvm-dev
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [llvm-dev] RFC - a proposal to support additional symbol
metadata in ELF object files in the ARM compiler

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 16:17, Snider, Todd via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> In ARM embedded applications, there are some compilers that support useful
function and variable attributes that help the compiler communicate information
about symbols to downstream object consumers (i.e. linkers).
>
>
>
> One such attribute is the “location” attribute. This attribute can be
applied to a global or local static data object or a function to indicate to the
linker that the definition of the data object or function should be placed at a
specific address in memory.
>
>
>
> For example, in the following code:
>
>
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
>
>
> extern int a;
>
> int a __attribute__((location(0x1000))) = 4;
>
>
>
> struct bstruct
>
> {
>
>     int f1;
>
>     int f2;
>
> };
>
>
>
> struct bstruct b __attribute__((location(0x1004))) = {10, 12};
>
> double c __attribute__((location(0x1010))) = 1.0;
>
> char d[] __attribute__((location(0x2000)))  = {1, 2, 3, 4};
>
> void foo(double x) __attribute((location(0x4000)));
>
>
>
> void foo(double x) { printf("%f\n", x); }
>
>
>
> A location attribute has been applied to several  data objects and the
function “foo.”  The compiler would then encode information into the compiled
object file that tells the downstream linker about these memory placement
constraints on the data objects and function.
>
>
>
> Without extending the ELF object format, how would this work?
>
>
>
> I propose to encode metadata information about a symbol in special absolute
symbols, “__sym_attr_metadata.<int>”, that the linker can recognize when
scanning the symbol table for an incoming object file. In an ELF symbol table
entry:
>
>
>
> typedef struct {
>
>        Elf32_Word     st_name;
>
>        Elf32_Addr     st_value;
>
>        Elf32_Word     st_size;
>
>        unsigned char  st_info;
>
>        unsigned char  st_other;
>
>        Elf32_Half     st_shndx;
>
> } Elf32_Sym;
>
>
>
> typedef struct {
>
>        Elf64_Word     st_name;
>
>        unsigned char  st_info;
>
>        unsigned char  st_other;
>
>        Elf64_Half     st_shndx;
>
>        Elf64_Addr     st_value;
>
>        Elf64_Xword    st_size;
>
> } Elf64_Sym;
>
>
>
> The st_size and st_value fields could be used to represent attribute
information about a given symbol:
>
>
>
> The st_size field can be split into an attribute ID and a symbol index for
the symbol that the attribute applies to
>
> attribute ID: bits 0..7
> symbol index: bits 8..31
>
> The st_value field can contain the value associated with the attribute
(i.e. the address argument of a location attribute)
>
>
>
> If the compiler is generating assembly code, a new directive similar to the
.eabi_attribute can be used:
>
>
>
>         .symbol_attribute <symbol name>, <attribute kind>,
<attribute value>
>
>
>
> Where:
>
> symbol name - will unambiguously identify the symbol that the
attribute/value pair applies to
> attribute kind - is an unsigned integer between 1 and 255 that specifies
the kind of attribute to be applied to the symbol
>
> I propose a starting base set of 2 attribute IDs: used (1), location (2)
> the compiler will emit the integer constant that identifies the attribute
kind
>
> attribute value - a value that is appropriate for the specified attribute
kind
>
>
>
> Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?
>
Hello Todd,

Thanks for bringing this up, I've got a few comments for you based on
the implementation of a similar attribute in another Embedded Compiler
(http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dui0472m/chr1359124981140.html).
 In that case it was __attribute__((at(address))) but the name is not
that important.

The communication with the linker in that case was via section name
and not symbol, from memory at(<address>) translated to a section name
of .ARM.__at_<address>. For us this had some advantages:
- We could use __attribute__((section(".ARM.__at_<address>"))) 
when
the compiler didn't support the attribute, it also needed no support
in the assembler. This wasn't ideal as it is nice to be able to use
expressions for the address, but it gets you most of the way there.
- In practice you'd likely need a separate section for each variable
to avoid problems at link time. For example if you had two variables
with non-contiguous locations you'd most likely not want these in the
same section so this mapped quite well to something similar to
__attribute__((section(name))).
- We did find some properties of __attribute__((section("name")))
inconvenient, especially that variables would come out as SHT_PROGBITS
when in many cases the user wanted SHT_NOBITS (memory mapped
peripheral), we had our custom attribute fix that.

If you used a section name rather than a symbol then you may not need
any backend changes and it would generalise over all ELF targets.
Linker support is another question entirely though.

Peter
>
>
> The anticipated next steps would be to add support for the location
attribute and update the ARM/ELF LLVM back-end to support encoding the used
attribute with the new mechanism.
>
>
>
> ~ Todd Snider
>
>
>
> Code Generation Tools Group
>
> Texas Instruments Incorporated
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> LLVM Developers mailing list
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev

Christof Douma via llvm-dev

2019-May-01 12:22 UTC

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Hi Snider.

As you and Peter mentioned there are indeed toolchains that allow location
placement from within the C/C++ source code, using attributes or similar. I
always wonder if such extension is worth the effort. There are downsides like
the non-standard ways of communicating this information to the linker, different
places that control location of things (linker and compiler sources). I would
love to understand more of what is problematic in the more common approach for
placement that is already available.

The conceptual model I follow is that the C/C++ source describes the semantics
of the program, and the linker sources (LD scripts or similar, depending on the
toolchain in use) describe the placement of the program on the system/device.
This gives rise to two common ways for placement that are used a lot that work
without any non-standard extensions:

* Define a variable in C/C++ in a dedicated section that a linker can move
individually ('section' attribute in the compiler, and regular section
placement in the linker).
* Define a symbol in the linker at a certain place and used an extern
declaration in C/C++. At this point you can either take the address of it
(commonly used) or use it as a regular object (less common).

I am very interested to hear what the weakness in these methods are, to
understand the need of a 'location' attribute.

Thanks,
Christof

On 30/04/2019, 16:51, "llvm-dev on behalf of Peter Smith via
llvm-dev" <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org on behalf of llvm-dev at
lists.llvm.org> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 16:17, Snider, Todd via llvm-dev
    <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > Hello All,
    >
    >
    >
    > In ARM embedded applications, there are some compilers that support
useful function and variable attributes that help the compiler communicate
information about symbols to downstream object consumers (i.e. linkers).
    >
    >
    >
    > One such attribute is the “location” attribute. This attribute can be
applied to a global or local static data object or a function to indicate to the
linker that the definition of the data object or function should be placed at a
specific address in memory.
    >
    >
    >
    > For example, in the following code:
    >
    >
    >
    > #include <stdio.h>
    >
    >
    >
    > extern int a;
    >
    > int a __attribute__((location(0x1000))) = 4;
    >
    >
    >
    > struct bstruct
    >
    > {
    >
    >     int f1;
    >
    >     int f2;
    >
    > };
    >
    >
    >
    > struct bstruct b __attribute__((location(0x1004))) = {10, 12};
    >
    > double c __attribute__((location(0x1010))) = 1.0;
    >
    > char d[] __attribute__((location(0x2000)))  = {1, 2, 3, 4};
    >
    > void foo(double x) __attribute((location(0x4000)));
    >
    >
    >
    > void foo(double x) { printf("%f\n", x); }
    >
    >
    >
    > A location attribute has been applied to several  data objects and the
function “foo.”  The compiler would then encode information into the compiled
object file that tells the downstream linker about these memory placement
constraints on the data objects and function.
    >
    >
    >
    > Without extending the ELF object format, how would this work?
    >
    >
    >
    > I propose to encode metadata information about a symbol in special
absolute symbols, “__sym_attr_metadata.<int>”, that the linker can
recognize when scanning the symbol table for an incoming object file. In an ELF
symbol table entry:
    >
    >
    >
    > typedef struct {
    >
    >        Elf32_Word     st_name;
    >
    >        Elf32_Addr     st_value;
    >
    >        Elf32_Word     st_size;
    >
    >        unsigned char  st_info;
    >
    >        unsigned char  st_other;
    >
    >        Elf32_Half     st_shndx;
    >
    > } Elf32_Sym;
    >
    >
    >
    > typedef struct {
    >
    >        Elf64_Word     st_name;
    >
    >        unsigned char  st_info;
    >
    >        unsigned char  st_other;
    >
    >        Elf64_Half     st_shndx;
    >
    >        Elf64_Addr     st_value;
    >
    >        Elf64_Xword    st_size;
    >
    > } Elf64_Sym;
    >
    >
    >
    > The st_size and st_value fields could be used to represent attribute
information about a given symbol:
    >
    >
    >
    > The st_size field can be split into an attribute ID and a symbol index
for the symbol that the attribute applies to
    >
    > attribute ID: bits 0..7
    > symbol index: bits 8..31
    >
    > The st_value field can contain the value associated with the attribute
(i.e. the address argument of a location attribute)
    >
    >
    >
    > If the compiler is generating assembly code, a new directive similar to
the .eabi_attribute can be used:
    >
    >
    >
    >         .symbol_attribute <symbol name>, <attribute kind>,
<attribute value>
    >
    >
    >
    > Where:
    >
    > symbol name - will unambiguously identify the symbol that the
attribute/value pair applies to
    > attribute kind - is an unsigned integer between 1 and 255 that
specifies the kind of attribute to be applied to the symbol
    >
    > I propose a starting base set of 2 attribute IDs: used (1), location
(2)
    > the compiler will emit the integer constant that identifies the
attribute kind
    >
    > attribute value - a value that is appropriate for the specified
attribute kind
    >
    >
    >
    > Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?
    >

    Hello Todd,

    Thanks for bringing this up, I've got a few comments for you based on
    the implementation of a similar attribute in another Embedded Compiler
   
(http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dui0472m/chr1359124981140.html).
     In that case it was __attribute__((at(address))) but the name is not
    that important.

    The communication with the linker in that case was via section name
    and not symbol, from memory at(<address>) translated to a section name
    of .ARM.__at_<address>. For us this had some advantages:
    - We could use
__attribute__((section(".ARM.__at_<address>")))  when
    the compiler didn't support the attribute, it also needed no support
    in the assembler. This wasn't ideal as it is nice to be able to use
    expressions for the address, but it gets you most of the way there.
    - In practice you'd likely need a separate section for each variable
    to avoid problems at link time. For example if you had two variables
    with non-contiguous locations you'd most likely not want these in the
    same section so this mapped quite well to something similar to
    __attribute__((section(name))).
    - We did find some properties of __attribute__((section("name")))
    inconvenient, especially that variables would come out as SHT_PROGBITS
    when in many cases the user wanted SHT_NOBITS (memory mapped
    peripheral), we had our custom attribute fix that.

    If you used a section name rather than a symbol then you may not need
    any backend changes and it would generalise over all ELF targets.
    Linker support is another question entirely though.

    Peter

    >
    >
    > The anticipated next steps would be to add support for the location
attribute and update the ARM/ELF LLVM back-end to support encoding the used
attribute with the new mechanism.
    >
    >
    >
    > ~ Todd Snider
    >
    >
    >
    > Code Generation Tools Group
    >
    > Texas Instruments Incorporated
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > _______________________________________________
    > LLVM Developers mailing list
    > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
    > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
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