Hi, It looks like the DeadStoreElimination optimization doesn't work across BasicBlock boundaries. The project I'm working on (https://github.com/trailofbits/mcsema), would tremendously benefit from even simple cross-block DSE. There was a patch to do non-local DSE few years ago (http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-January/028751.html), but seems that the patch was never merged. Is there an existing way to do cross-block DSE? Was there something wrong with the original non-local DSE patch that it wasn't merged? Thanks, Artem -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 842 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141024/158c277f/attachment.sig>
On 10/24/2014 01:17 PM, Artem Dinaburg wrote:> Hi, > > It looks like the DeadStoreElimination optimization doesn't work across BasicBlock boundaries. The project I'm working on (https://github.com/trailofbits/mcsema), would tremendously benefit from even simple cross-block DSE.If you have specific small examples which aren't getting caught, I'd be interested in seeing test cases (as bugs.)> There was a patch to do non-local DSE few years ago (http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-January/028751.html), but seems that the patch was never merged. > > Is there an existing way to do cross-block DSE?EarlyCSE handles limited cases here. GVN probably could, but doesn't seem to. (Which surprises me.)> Was there something wrong with the original non-local DSE patch that it wasn't merged?I suspect it got lost in review. It looks like there were some quality issues with the original implementation and the cycle never got closed.> > Thanks, > Artem > > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu > http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141105/d0343b31/attachment.html>
http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=5625 Thanks, Balaram From: llvmdev-bounces at cs.uiuc.edu [mailto:llvmdev-bounces at cs.uiuc.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Reames Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:48 PM To: Artem Dinaburg; llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] Cross-Block Dead Store Elimination On 10/24/2014 01:17 PM, Artem Dinaburg wrote: Hi, It looks like the DeadStoreElimination optimization doesn't work across BasicBlock boundaries. The project I'm working on (https://github.com/trailofbits/mcsema), would tremendously benefit from even simple cross-block DSE. If you have specific small examples which aren't getting caught, I'd be interested in seeing test cases (as bugs.) There was a patch to do non-local DSE few years ago (http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-January/028751.html), but seems that the patch was never merged. Is there an existing way to do cross-block DSE? EarlyCSE handles limited cases here. GVN probably could, but doesn't seem to. (Which surprises me.) Was there something wrong with the original non-local DSE patch that it wasn't merged? I suspect it got lost in review. It looks like there were some quality issues with the original implementation and the cycle never got closed. Thanks, Artem _______________________________________________ LLVM Developers mailing list LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141106/cbfc63e0/attachment.html>
Hi Philip, I've attached two simplified examples: does_optimize.ll and does_not_optimize.ll. In both examples, the load/store of %STACK_BASEVAL and %STACK_LIMITVAL should be removed, since the values are never used. The difference is that in does_optimize.ll, the store is in the same block as the load, and in does_not_optimize.dll, the store is in a different block. When optimizing does_optimize.ll, the DeadStoreElimination pass removes the store as as "Remove Store of Load from same pointer" (http://llvm.org/docs/doxygen/html/DeadStoreElimination_8cpp_source.html#l00510). When optimizing does_not_optimize.ll, the store is not removed, because the corresponding load is in a different block. In both cases, we load a value and then store in back into the same location, so both load and store should be optimized out. Thanks, Artem Dinaburg On Nov 5, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Philip Reames <listmail at philipreames.com> wrote:> > On 10/24/2014 01:17 PM, Artem Dinaburg wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It looks like the DeadStoreElimination optimization doesn't work across BasicBlock boundaries. The project I'm working on (https://github.com/trailofbits/mcsema), would tremendously benefit from even simple cross-block DSE. > If you have specific small examples which aren't getting caught, I'd be interested in seeing test cases (as bugs.) >> >> There was a patch to do non-local DSE few years ago (http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-January/028751.html), but seems that the patch was never merged. >> >> Is there an existing way to do cross-block DSE? > EarlyCSE handles limited cases here. GVN probably could, but doesn't seem to. (Which surprises me.) >> Was there something wrong with the original non-local DSE patch that it wasn't merged? > I suspect it got lost in review. It looks like there were some quality issues with the original implementation and the cycle never got closed. >> >> Thanks, >> Artem >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141106/e359275c/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: does_not_optimize.ll Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2039 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141106/e359275c/attachment.obj> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141106/e359275c/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: does_optimize.ll Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2041 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141106/e359275c/attachment-0001.obj> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141106/e359275c/attachment-0002.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3869 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141106/e359275c/attachment.bin>
On Wed Nov 05 2014 at 4:49:47 PM Philip Reames <listmail at philipreames.com> wrote:> > On 10/24/2014 01:17 PM, Artem Dinaburg wrote: > > Hi, > > It looks like the DeadStoreElimination optimization doesn't work across BasicBlock boundaries. The project I'm working on (https://github.com/trailofbits/mcsema), would tremendously benefit from even simple cross-block DSE. > > If you have specific small examples which aren't getting caught, I'd be > interested in seeing test cases (as bugs.) > > There was a patch to do non-local DSE few years ago (http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-January/028751.html), but seems that the patch was never merged. > > Is there an existing way to do cross-block DSE? > > EarlyCSE handles limited cases here. GVN probably could, but doesn't > seem to. (Which surprises me.) >To do it "right", you'd have to build SSU and do PRE in the reverse direction, which GVN doesn't do. The patch posted actually does this "right" (building SSU and using it), though i haven't looked through it to see if it just does SSU building and usage, or actually does PRE. Either way, it's a good enough start :) For normal cross-block cases, GVN does not value number loads *or* stores, so it will never discover this, unless it can do so through the load's direct dependency. IMHO, cleaning up the SSU based patch and getting it in would be the right way to go. It may require some post-dominance speedups and cleanups to get it fast enough and right enough (I know everyone hates the post-dominator tree, but there is no other way to do proper store sinking) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20141106/65f66b4d/attachment.html>
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