Hi, I have been using Centos since 3.0. I have been upgrading regularly without any major problem. 4.1 to 4.2 has been a total disaster. I ran yum update, it went through and a couple of hours later I rebooted and X froze with the screen just being just fuzz [regular rectangles, orange, green...] and the keyboard froze. Could not do a alt-ctrl-backspace, nor a Alt-F1-6 nor Alt-Ctrl-Del. I have a ATI9200 with a Samsung 710N [It only works at 1240x1024 @ 60Hz, it will not work at any other frequency] This is the same hardware as I was running with 4.1. I had to reinstall 4.1, now I cannot run yum update to get the security updates, it tries to upgrade to 4.2. 1. Is there a way to just get the updates for 4.1 and not 4.2 2. Any suggestion on what went wrong with X. It's not just the frequency display because the keyboard also froze. Thanks
I installed Centos 4.2 the day it was released. It was a 512MB Ram, Sempron 2800+, Asus K8N-E Deluxe motherboard. The install from DVD went fine. However the computer wouldn't boot. Grub froze after flashing the Loading stage 2 screen with a blank screen. Booting from rescue resulted in rescue mode (anaconda I assume) finishing with an error just after I selected network interfaces on. Booting from rescue again (with network off) and fixing grub.conf not to use the splash screen didn't help - still didn't boot from HDD. Finally I rebooted from rescue and reinstalled grub - this time the computer boots normally. I went through firstboot configuration and X booted ok and I logged into gdm, did some minor configuration tasks (nothing to do with X, mostly iptables related stuff, adding a user, copying a few DVDs as iso images onto the 120GB disk for later and to speed access) and rebooted. This time the computer froze upon loading the X server. Mouse would work (move a big block of horizontal random colored lines over a screen full of horizontal random colored lines) but keyboard wouldn't (not leds not ctrl+alt+backspac). Had to do a reset. This time after verifying nothing got borked on disk it froze again. Had to switch to run level 4 do disable gdm. Since then the system has been running, but it doesn't seem to be very snappy (but that might not be the OS's fault). Comments? Cheers, Maciej Z. On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Syv Ritch wrote:> Hi, > > I have been using Centos since 3.0. I have been upgrading regularly without > any major problem. > > 4.1 to 4.2 has been a total disaster. > > I ran yum update, it went through and a couple of hours later I rebooted and > X froze with the screen just being just fuzz [regular rectangles, orange, > green...] and the keyboard froze. Could not do a alt-ctrl-backspace, nor a > Alt-F1-6 nor Alt-Ctrl-Del. > > I have a ATI9200 with a Samsung 710N [It only works at 1240x1024 @ 60Hz, it > will not work at any other frequency] > > This is the same hardware as I was running with 4.1. > > I had to reinstall 4.1, now I cannot run yum update to get the security > updates, it tries to upgrade to 4.2. > > 1. Is there a way to just get the updates for 4.1 and not 4.2 > 2. Any suggestion on what went wrong with X. It's not just the frequency > display because the keyboard also froze. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 12:23 -0700, Syv Ritch wrote:> Hi, > > I have been using Centos since 3.0. I have been upgrading > regularly without any major problem. > > 4.1 to 4.2 has been a total disaster. > > I ran yum update, it went through and a couple of hours later I > rebooted and X froze with the screen just being just fuzz > [regular rectangles, orange, green...] and the keyboard froze. > Could not do a alt-ctrl-backspace, nor a Alt-F1-6 nor Alt-Ctrl-Del. > > I have a ATI9200 with a Samsung 710N [It only works at 1240x1024 > @ 60Hz, it will not work at any other frequency] > > This is the same hardware as I was running with 4.1. > > I had to reinstall 4.1, now I cannot run yum update to get the > security updates, it tries to upgrade to 4.2. > > 1. Is there a way to just get the updates for 4.1 and not 4.2 > 2. Any suggestion on what went wrong with X. It's not just the > frequency display because the keyboard also froze. > > ThanksThe first thing that came to my mind that there was something not nice between 3.0 and 4.X but reading on you are already running 4.1 as I. I confess that I was kinda in the dark...about 10 days ago I unsubscribed to this list and then yest. morn. I started to upgrade and knew something big was going on but didn't really know til I read on the Centos' site. I am sorry to hear of the problems and I guess I consider myself lucky. Using yum update I updated all 3 of my machines w/no problems other than a hell of a lot of time to do it and lots of restarting the update process. All 3 of my machines are stictly generic...most people would probably call them junk and they probably right but I must say I have had no problems upgrading. thx John Rose
ATI hardware and linux typcially don't get along IME. I am wondering if this is the key to your issue? Syv Ritch wrote:> Hi, > > I have been using Centos since 3.0. I have been upgrading regularly > without any major problem. > > 4.1 to 4.2 has been a total disaster. > > I ran yum update, it went through and a couple of hours later I rebooted > and X froze with the screen just being just fuzz [regular rectangles, > orange, green...] and the keyboard froze. Could not do a > alt-ctrl-backspace, nor a Alt-F1-6 nor Alt-Ctrl-Del. > > I have a ATI9200 with a Samsung 710N [It only works at 1240x1024 @ 60Hz, > it will not work at any other frequency] > > This is the same hardware as I was running with 4.1. > > I had to reinstall 4.1, now I cannot run yum update to get the security > updates, it tries to upgrade to 4.2. > > 1. Is there a way to just get the updates for 4.1 and not 4.2 > 2. Any suggestion on what went wrong with X. It's not just the frequency > display because the keyboard also froze. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/
On Sunday 16 October 2005 15:23, Syv Ritch wrote:> I ran yum update, it went through and a couple of hours later I > rebooted and X froze with the screen just being just fuzz > [regular rectangles, orange, green...] and the keyboard froze. > Could not do a alt-ctrl-backspace, nor a Alt-F1-6 nor Alt-Ctrl-Del.> I have a ATI9200 with a Samsung 710N [It only works at 1240x1024 > @ 60Hz, it will not work at any other frequency]Ok, a couple of data points, and a suggestion. First, updated my Dell 600m laptop. Following is the video card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 011e Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at c000 [size=256] Memory at fcff0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: <available only to root> Ok, that works fine. Next, updated a Dell 2850 with the following video card: 0b:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 016d Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 185 Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at cc00 [size=256] Memory at df4f0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Same symptoms you have. I worked around it by disabling rhgb on the boot line (see /boot/grub/grub.conf and remove all rhgb kernel command line parameters). Probably something related to the kernel DRM/DRI stuff, although the problem persists regardless of kernel I boot (the .11 kernel had been working fine, but with the new Xorg it didn't). -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu
Syv Ritch wrote:> 4.1 to 4.2 has been a total disaster. > > I ran yum update, it went through and a couple of hours later I rebooted > and X froze with the screen just being just fuzz [regular rectangles, > orange, green...] and the keyboard froze. Could not do a > alt-ctrl-backspace, nor a Alt-F1-6 nor Alt-Ctrl-Del. > > I have a ATI9200 with a Samsung 710N [It only works at 1240x1024 @ 60Hz, > it will not work at any other frequency] > > This is the same hardware as I was running with 4.1. > > I had to reinstall 4.1, now I cannot run yum update to get the security > updates, it tries to upgrade to 4.2. > > 1. Is there a way to just get the updates for 4.1 and not 4.2 > 2. Any suggestion on what went wrong with X. It's not just the frequency > display because the keyboard also froze.I have finally solved the problem. The problem IS [present tense] X. X dies with the ATI card. I have tried changing the driver to ATI's, and still no dice. I ended cannibalizing an older PC and changing the video card to an nVidia GeForce2. Everything works well. Something's wrong on how X talks or does not talk to the ATI9200. It's not the driver because it happens with both dri and fglrx, so ...