wine users - Jan 2012 - How Functional is Wine's IE supposed to be?

I haven't said much about this, but Wine's Internet Explorer has never
really worked as web browser.

I understand that the main purpose of Wine's Internet Explorer isn't to
be a web browser, but to make Windows programs that require MS IE work.

That said, one of the Wine 1.4 release criteria is "Builtin iexplore,
Gecko". So I figured I should ask, "How functional is Wine's IE
supposed to be for Wine 1.4?"

I compiled Wine 1.4 rc1 from source, downloaded Gecko 1.4, and tested out
Wine's Internet Explorer. Most buttons don't even do anything. I
understand the running shell model of development where you basically have a
bunch of place-holder code that reports "I'm not developed yet."
Is that what's going on here? Shouldn't there at least be a popup that
says "forward button not developed yet" or something, so people
won't think it's a bug?

Anyways, it freezes up after just a little bit of use, View > toolbars >
(Standard bar or Address bar) doesn't do anything, I can presumably add to
favourites, but not access them from anywhere, the back button works on
occasion, I am yet to see the forward button work, Stop and Refresh don't
appear to do anything, Home actually does work, "File > new >
Window" doesn't work, "File > open" sometimes works, Save
and SaveAs both don't work, Print format doesn't do anything, print
sometimes works, I've never seen print preview work, properties doesn't
seem to do anything, and close works.

So yeah, just wondering if that's supposed to be the case. I was kind of
hoping that all the buttons would at least do something in Wine 1.4, not that I
would need Wine 1.4 as a browser, but it would be nice for the sake of
completeness.

Jake

http://bugs.winehq.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc=iexplore&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 08:39, SpawnHappyJake <wineforum-user at
winehq.org> wrote:
> I understand that the main purpose of Wine's Internet Explorer
isn't to be a web browser, but to make
> Windows programs that require MS IE work.
>
>From where is this information? Many of my nation's websites still,
especially government websites, require IE. I happen to have a Windows
virtual machine but I had assumed that IE on Wine would be a viable
alternative for those without a VM.


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Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I had assumed that IE on Wine would be a viable
> alternative for those without a VM.
> 
You assumed wrong.

That being said, I hope that one day at least the wine IE will be able to handle
bank login controls and such.  You can't do online banking in China without
being able to emulate the login features and activex controls from IE6.  There
are also some other popular programs that are hung up on this over here. 
It's the main stumbling block to switching most casual computer users over
to linux.

What I am meaning is the functionality be eventually implemented into wine.  I
have no love for IE6 and I back microsoft 100% for finally killing support for
it.  It is amazing to see how much stuff over here is still so dependent on IE6.
There is some hope though.  Most of the banking controls will still work using
IE7,8 and 9.  Also, some banks are starting to offer FF compatible controls. 
Still a long way to go though.

Thank you.  I have a VM setup for my wife that handles most of our banking
stuff.  Right now i'm more focused on debugging other hot button programs
that are pretty much used exclusively over here, like QQ, Aliwangwang, Alipay,
Feition, etc.  Getting these working smoothly in wine would help me with my goal
of eventually converting the school I work at 100% to linux, which would
eliminate much hassle on my part.  In addition to my regular duties there,
I've become the tech expert because the usual tech guy just isn't up on
my level.

I know about the debug work in QQ fracting, i've helped you do some of it. 
I've also been following your work with Aliwangwang. As a side note, there
is a RC of a linux client of Aliwangwang.  I installed it on my wife's
computer and it works pretty well.

The other stuff I need to get around to testing and then setting up pages in the
AppDB about them.