Thanks: To Stef and Tobias Geiger for giving me the answer. I used the prio to = get the order right. Don't know why I did'nt think of it myself. Compression: Another thing that might be useful to the list is the use of compression = (Deflate etc.) to get better bandwidth across links. This requires a = Linux router at both ends of the link. I got the idea from a product = called Peribit see www.peribit.com ( and mainly from Martin Devera who = pointed out to me that Linux does compression already with ppp. ) I have = now started to work on getting compression built into my traffic = shaping/router products that are Linux based. Putting that in place of = Cisco should be a much better/cheaper solution do you not think? One = could even shape the port that the pppoe runs on. I have looked at = Zebedee which also has a solution for "Windows" boxes. Anyway I've just = started to do this and If anyone is interested I will let you know the = outcome. Regards Allan Gee Equation 021 4181777 www.equation.co.za